RNGC
06-24 09:44 AM
these were the kind of points I was looking for.....I will do this as my summer essay :) and share with IV when it is done.
America is definitely losing out because of prolonged Green card processing. I know of many well educated PostGraduates, Physicians who were not able to pursue their careers in Research, fellowships because they have to be stuck in one fixed position without any progress to obtain the green card. they are being denied of the opportunity to find new cures, innovations that could potentially help the humanity. true US is getting the taxes from the main H1 applicant, but what about the well educated spouses and dependants. don't they have a role in contributing to the development of the country, they are made to pay higher tuition fees and they cannot work on dependent status. Only the lucky few who were able to fille for I-485 in 2007 got their EADs, but what about the long waiting for 485 filing and EAD since 2000 and before? Even today you if you are EB3 or EB2, you cannot apply for 485 and so your family cannot get EAD and so cannot work.
Many software professional and other highly educated workers can contribute much more to the Economy like how they did in 1990s by becoming enterpreneurs, but they will not be able to do anything while on "temporary visas" as they are much more concerned about maintaining their status, extending their status every few years. many people are even hesitant to buy a house, agree a few of us have bought houses and other properties, but vast majority of us are still very hesitant to do it as we can never feel fully secure of our job. If you have the Greencard you will atleast be confident that you can find a job in the area where you buy the house.
If you look at the procedures for Drivers licenses, even though the legal workers go through rigorous security checks while obtaining visas and changing/extending status with USCIS and almost all of them are verywell educated and very responsible, you have to go through a big hassle to obtain the Drivers licences and some people are being made to wait for months even after providing all the required documentation. In some states, dependents are not given Drivers Licenses and in other states, you legal workers/students get a "special drivers license" with which there is much scope for being discriminated just on the basis of this license, and if you move to a different state, this special license is not recognized and you have to apply for a fresh license, take written test, driving test and go through all the hassles again even though you have been driving in US legally for more than 10 years.
these hard working young professionals are losing the most important phase of their lives waiting for the elusive greencard and by the time the get it they are much older and don't have the same zeal for new ideas like how they did before and end up taking care of other responsibilities including family. I can go on and on like this. after we have been through all these testing circumstances, please do not say that America has not lost anything, but the biggest losers of all are the legal immigrants.
this is a process where there are no winners, but only losers. this lengthy backlogged process is resulting in a great loss to the advancement of US and would be legal immigrants
America is definitely losing out because of prolonged Green card processing. I know of many well educated PostGraduates, Physicians who were not able to pursue their careers in Research, fellowships because they have to be stuck in one fixed position without any progress to obtain the green card. they are being denied of the opportunity to find new cures, innovations that could potentially help the humanity. true US is getting the taxes from the main H1 applicant, but what about the well educated spouses and dependants. don't they have a role in contributing to the development of the country, they are made to pay higher tuition fees and they cannot work on dependent status. Only the lucky few who were able to fille for I-485 in 2007 got their EADs, but what about the long waiting for 485 filing and EAD since 2000 and before? Even today you if you are EB3 or EB2, you cannot apply for 485 and so your family cannot get EAD and so cannot work.
Many software professional and other highly educated workers can contribute much more to the Economy like how they did in 1990s by becoming enterpreneurs, but they will not be able to do anything while on "temporary visas" as they are much more concerned about maintaining their status, extending their status every few years. many people are even hesitant to buy a house, agree a few of us have bought houses and other properties, but vast majority of us are still very hesitant to do it as we can never feel fully secure of our job. If you have the Greencard you will atleast be confident that you can find a job in the area where you buy the house.
If you look at the procedures for Drivers licenses, even though the legal workers go through rigorous security checks while obtaining visas and changing/extending status with USCIS and almost all of them are verywell educated and very responsible, you have to go through a big hassle to obtain the Drivers licences and some people are being made to wait for months even after providing all the required documentation. In some states, dependents are not given Drivers Licenses and in other states, you legal workers/students get a "special drivers license" with which there is much scope for being discriminated just on the basis of this license, and if you move to a different state, this special license is not recognized and you have to apply for a fresh license, take written test, driving test and go through all the hassles again even though you have been driving in US legally for more than 10 years.
these hard working young professionals are losing the most important phase of their lives waiting for the elusive greencard and by the time the get it they are much older and don't have the same zeal for new ideas like how they did before and end up taking care of other responsibilities including family. I can go on and on like this. after we have been through all these testing circumstances, please do not say that America has not lost anything, but the biggest losers of all are the legal immigrants.
this is a process where there are no winners, but only losers. this lengthy backlogged process is resulting in a great loss to the advancement of US and would be legal immigrants
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485Mbe4001
08-15 11:50 AM
True, once the people realize that they are close to GC they forget all tasks and move on to the other forums (R2I or USC or whatever) there are very few who actually stay on and help add this to the fact that most of the EB3-I's got fed up with the nonsense going on (most were only looking for a sounding board to voice their dismay, instead they were reminded of the caste system). So EB2's stop working because their PD is current and EBs stop because there is little hope/chance/help. We can dissect the VB as much as we want, the fact of the matter is that EB3 as a whole and EB3 (india &China) in particular are screwed big time. There is hope in the Logfren bills but the congress seems to have other 'important' issues to discuss.
We should take the campaign to a new level move from individuals to involving groups and compaines. They have more money and power to make things move. EB3 & EB2 discussions will go on for ever, we can either decide to wallow in our sorrow or do something. Lets identify groups who can help us and write to them. Each EB should talk to his/her HR and ask them to write a letter to their congressman/Senator it will have a bigger impact.
What are your thoughts?
actually people are already complacent ..eb2 is in joy and waiting impatiently, eb3 people have given up hope and there is not much news from core. people may not like my post but that is the fact
We should take the campaign to a new level move from individuals to involving groups and compaines. They have more money and power to make things move. EB3 & EB2 discussions will go on for ever, we can either decide to wallow in our sorrow or do something. Lets identify groups who can help us and write to them. Each EB should talk to his/her HR and ask them to write a letter to their congressman/Senator it will have a bigger impact.
What are your thoughts?
actually people are already complacent ..eb2 is in joy and waiting impatiently, eb3 people have given up hope and there is not much news from core. people may not like my post but that is the fact
nlssubbu
07-24 06:42 PM
If they are such smart to calculate numbers like you said, which is theoritically possible, they would not be creating mess like this for years.
Yes, it is easy for them to know how many applications are filed and from which country and how many are in which category etc etc. Based on visa numbers availability, they could very well process the applications are request the visa numbers from DHS. When USCIS handles all the 485 processing, then how come DHS is responsible for moving the dates in VB. It is insane and ridiculous for DHS to have this functionality when they do not have any idea on 485 apps with USCIS. They are scewing up immigrants deliberately without transparency between them.
As I already stated, it is proven beyond the point that DOL and USCIS has only the ability to count the numbers. They do not even know exactly how much labor is pending by country. The same is true for I140 as well.
There is confusion even about how the count works. When your name is struck at FBI name check, it is not counted as backlog itself by USCIS anymore :( [I vaguely remember someone posting this quoting some reference from USCIS memo regarding reduction of processing times].
This is why in many cases you see the sudden forward movement in PD followed by heavy retrogression. Historically those who got approved when the PD is moved forward are always lucky.
Thanks
Yes, it is easy for them to know how many applications are filed and from which country and how many are in which category etc etc. Based on visa numbers availability, they could very well process the applications are request the visa numbers from DHS. When USCIS handles all the 485 processing, then how come DHS is responsible for moving the dates in VB. It is insane and ridiculous for DHS to have this functionality when they do not have any idea on 485 apps with USCIS. They are scewing up immigrants deliberately without transparency between them.
As I already stated, it is proven beyond the point that DOL and USCIS has only the ability to count the numbers. They do not even know exactly how much labor is pending by country. The same is true for I140 as well.
There is confusion even about how the count works. When your name is struck at FBI name check, it is not counted as backlog itself by USCIS anymore :( [I vaguely remember someone posting this quoting some reference from USCIS memo regarding reduction of processing times].
This is why in many cases you see the sudden forward movement in PD followed by heavy retrogression. Historically those who got approved when the PD is moved forward are always lucky.
Thanks
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learning01
04-25 02:32 PM
I had already told you that I am not an admin. I said we will focus. I am sorry if you are mistaken.
Tell me, convince me how this discussion of the PD will help in our goals of IV.
We have a CIR that is going no where. We need to dicuss what he said, she said about CIR and what is happening or going to happen in senate. We don't have time to discuss this PD.
If you want to discuss, do it by all means. We will only be wavering from the focus. Tha's my point.
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Learning01,
There is too much curbing of free speech, you admins are taking a heavy handed approach to discussions. Deleting posts at will, diverting topics at whims and fancies...
Let there be discussins, there is nothing wrong in floating ideas.. allow members to express. Not every idea needs to be implemented.
This sort of arrogance is not going help anybody's cause.
Just my two cents...
Tell me, convince me how this discussion of the PD will help in our goals of IV.
We have a CIR that is going no where. We need to dicuss what he said, she said about CIR and what is happening or going to happen in senate. We don't have time to discuss this PD.
If you want to discuss, do it by all means. We will only be wavering from the focus. Tha's my point.
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Learning01,
There is too much curbing of free speech, you admins are taking a heavy handed approach to discussions. Deleting posts at will, diverting topics at whims and fancies...
Let there be discussins, there is nothing wrong in floating ideas.. allow members to express. Not every idea needs to be implemented.
This sort of arrogance is not going help anybody's cause.
Just my two cents...
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chanduv23
09-12 02:04 PM
Actually,
why do they even have to locate old files physically?
All the data about case file number (LINXXX, SRCXX, etc), status and the associated priority date is in a single/distributed database (else we would not be able to check our status online )
WHY CAN'T USCIS NOT RUN A QUERY AGAINST THIS DATBASE....?
Easier said than done - we have no clue what they do - what pattern they follow - but what has happened clearly suggests that there are many disconnects and there are always excuses.
The flood of approvals that come during end of fiscal year is just to avoid issues with questions raised for inefficiency
why do they even have to locate old files physically?
All the data about case file number (LINXXX, SRCXX, etc), status and the associated priority date is in a single/distributed database (else we would not be able to check our status online )
WHY CAN'T USCIS NOT RUN A QUERY AGAINST THIS DATBASE....?
Easier said than done - we have no clue what they do - what pattern they follow - but what has happened clearly suggests that there are many disconnects and there are always excuses.
The flood of approvals that come during end of fiscal year is just to avoid issues with questions raised for inefficiency
eb3_nepa
03-09 01:21 PM
Black_logs are you ABSOLUTELY sure that they eat into the EB3 numbers? On the Visa Bulletin, they have a seperate entry below the EB3. Just curious if we are getting this Schedule A thing correctly
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chisinau
11-02 12:28 PM
NURSE, H-1B FEES TORPEDOED FROM BUDGET BILL
I have learned that the immigration provisions that would have created 61,000 additional green cards for nurses as well as added a $3500 fee to H-1B visas have not survived the conference committee and will not be a part of the bill sent to the President (which he is set to veto). There is much speculation as to why this happened. Many people were deeply troubled by the H-1B and its impact on non-profit and smaller employers. In order to allow Senator Grassley to save face, the push was made to strip all immigration provisions out, even though the H-1B fee opponents likely supported the nurses. We also understand the California Nurses Association, the most vocal anti-immigration nursing group in the country, worked behind the scenes to try and kill the nursing provision. Nice that they care so much about their patients and would rather push death rates up rather than immediately dealing with the nursing crisis.
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/
I have learned that the immigration provisions that would have created 61,000 additional green cards for nurses as well as added a $3500 fee to H-1B visas have not survived the conference committee and will not be a part of the bill sent to the President (which he is set to veto). There is much speculation as to why this happened. Many people were deeply troubled by the H-1B and its impact on non-profit and smaller employers. In order to allow Senator Grassley to save face, the push was made to strip all immigration provisions out, even though the H-1B fee opponents likely supported the nurses. We also understand the California Nurses Association, the most vocal anti-immigration nursing group in the country, worked behind the scenes to try and kill the nursing provision. Nice that they care so much about their patients and would rather push death rates up rather than immediately dealing with the nursing crisis.
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/
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abhijitp
07-06 09:47 AM
Can anyone post the email of the reporter?
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/julia_preston/index.html?inline=nyt-per
Then click on Send an email to Julia Preston
The following page comes up:
Send a Message to JULIA PRESTON
Delivery of this e-mail may be delayed. If you need to reach The Times immediately, please call 212-556-1234.
Your name:
Your Email Address:
Your Message:
URL of article related to your message:
<button>Click to send message</button>
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/julia_preston/index.html?inline=nyt-per
Then click on Send an email to Julia Preston
The following page comes up:
Send a Message to JULIA PRESTON
Delivery of this e-mail may be delayed. If you need to reach The Times immediately, please call 212-556-1234.
Your name:
Your Email Address:
Your Message:
URL of article related to your message:
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texcan
09-12 10:13 PM
I was hoping to get people to start their monthly contribution, but it seems people are more inclined to make one time contribution. So I have added this to the start of the thread.
>>For every $100 one time contribution by first time contributors I will match $25.00. <<
So people with their fingers on the trigger, who don't want to commit long term, here is your chance. Please allow me to help you squeeze the trigger and fire your first shot.
I already have Struggle and green_world. Just need 2 new first time $100 contributors to make my next $100 contribution.
Committments in life do make people nervous, but in this case i am surprised
what else will it take.
Come on guys, this is best deal of century. Make some contribution.
Once again, Great going Milind
Hats off to you friend.
>>For every $100 one time contribution by first time contributors I will match $25.00. <<
So people with their fingers on the trigger, who don't want to commit long term, here is your chance. Please allow me to help you squeeze the trigger and fire your first shot.
I already have Struggle and green_world. Just need 2 new first time $100 contributors to make my next $100 contribution.
Committments in life do make people nervous, but in this case i am surprised
what else will it take.
Come on guys, this is best deal of century. Make some contribution.
Once again, Great going Milind
Hats off to you friend.
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lahiribaba
07-06 01:51 AM
Instead of hiring a full time lobbyist why dont we hire a full time manager who will contact IV members and drive funding drives , organize campaigns , send and spam USCIS with emails flowers and faxes and keep it moving. Heck may be we can even offshore and outsource it. Take a look at YourManInIndia (http://www.yourmaninindia.com/) . At 7$ per hour this wont take much. Lets take the help of our brothers and sisters in Inda to get GC .. let them help us while we help them..
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cjagtap
08-10 09:51 PM
any TSC receipts??????? mine was TSC -2 nd July..
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satyasaich
07-14 02:24 PM
Dear IVians
Please make it happen. Just $5 will never hurt anybody's economy / budget.
I wanted to cover 9 more souls if there is any acute shortage of even $5 (not to offend anyone), hence sent a check for $50
Suport IV
Satya
Please make it happen. Just $5 will never hurt anybody's economy / budget.
I wanted to cover 9 more souls if there is any acute shortage of even $5 (not to offend anyone), hence sent a check for $50
Suport IV
Satya
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ssnd03
04-01 05:00 PM
First of all why do U wanna ask that? Its an employment based visa that ur GC is based on. So, ur employer shud ask that. Why are u asking IVans to do something which is not in their control??? I keep getting red and dont mind if I'm banned. But excuse me...u r misleading IVans. My point is this. We can protest, rally based on the delay. Thats pretty much we can do. Inquiring into a Government agency's internal affairs is none of ur business. And I repeat u dont have any rights to do that as u have NO direct link to USCIS. U have applied thru ur employer and ur employer shud speak for u. Do u even get it? Ur statements and arguments have no logic whatsoever and misleading.
Dard-E-Disco I have read your comments on this thread.. Frankly you are retarded and ignorant.
I485 is an individual application. It has nothing to do with the employer even in the EB cases. The basis for I485 can be an EB I140. USCIS is answerable to the employer for I140 and answerable to the immigrant for I485. However, I don't think you have the mental capability to understand this obvious law.
Immigrants don't get to vote and may not have other rights such a welfare, social securicty etc. But USA as the greatest democracy on earth provides almost all of the rights to citizens and foreigners alike. In fact you can complain to your local, state & federal lawmakers and they will help you in your problems.
And yes a foreigner has the right to complain about any govt. organization including USCIS if their processes are adversely effecting him or her. These are the basic principles of the US democracy.
Even though relatively US has one of the best functional govt.. sometimes it still takes lot of effort and time for the wheels to turn. Thats what IV is trying to achieve.
Having said that I doubt any of this will penetrate your thick skull. Dard-e-disco you are basically a retard!
Dard-E-Disco I have read your comments on this thread.. Frankly you are retarded and ignorant.
I485 is an individual application. It has nothing to do with the employer even in the EB cases. The basis for I485 can be an EB I140. USCIS is answerable to the employer for I140 and answerable to the immigrant for I485. However, I don't think you have the mental capability to understand this obvious law.
Immigrants don't get to vote and may not have other rights such a welfare, social securicty etc. But USA as the greatest democracy on earth provides almost all of the rights to citizens and foreigners alike. In fact you can complain to your local, state & federal lawmakers and they will help you in your problems.
And yes a foreigner has the right to complain about any govt. organization including USCIS if their processes are adversely effecting him or her. These are the basic principles of the US democracy.
Even though relatively US has one of the best functional govt.. sometimes it still takes lot of effort and time for the wheels to turn. Thats what IV is trying to achieve.
Having said that I doubt any of this will penetrate your thick skull. Dard-e-disco you are basically a retard!
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eb3_nepa
07-14 06:22 PM
Silly question but I need an answer :)...How can I use Bill pay here? I bank with BOA and it asks for a company name if I choose bill pay...
The company name can be Immigration Voice. Normally you do not need an account number per se, although you COULD try and put in your IV handle as the acct number if it allows non numeric characters in the acct number.
A lot of people have used BOA, can someone guide zoooom please
The company name can be Immigration Voice. Normally you do not need an account number per se, although you COULD try and put in your IV handle as the acct number if it allows non numeric characters in the acct number.
A lot of people have used BOA, can someone guide zoooom please
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reachag
12-18 02:30 PM
# nycgal369, Senior Member like you coming up with this idea...hmmm..
Do you think mass rallies by illegals has helped them? Did not it back fire? will be the same for us. Will not help. The question is not about being scared, its more about doing the right thing.
First of all, forget about back firing, can we get 100 people to do this. IV has been trying for funds and i dont think even 10% have contributed..why would u think any one would loose a pay day? even if you take 20$/hour i.e 160$ per day. Lot of members are not ready to contribute 50 bucks :) There might be a few who can not contribute due to various reasons and i totally sympathize with them but what about the remaining?
My point is not to discourage but just for a reality check
Do you think mass rallies by illegals has helped them? Did not it back fire? will be the same for us. Will not help. The question is not about being scared, its more about doing the right thing.
First of all, forget about back firing, can we get 100 people to do this. IV has been trying for funds and i dont think even 10% have contributed..why would u think any one would loose a pay day? even if you take 20$/hour i.e 160$ per day. Lot of members are not ready to contribute 50 bucks :) There might be a few who can not contribute due to various reasons and i totally sympathize with them but what about the remaining?
My point is not to discourage but just for a reality check
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webm
04-30 03:28 PM
Testimony is going in full mood/swing..questions by questions...to uscis/dos..
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amits
07-19 01:27 PM
Thanks espoir for your contribution!!
Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
Every $ counts...
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Just Signed up for $100/month recurring contribution. upgrade from $20/month in addition to $300 one time contribution in june.
Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
Every $ counts...
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Just Signed up for $100/month recurring contribution. upgrade from $20/month in addition to $300 one time contribution in june.
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GotGC??
01-04 04:10 PM
Absolutely, and yours truly is also one of them ;)
But the point being, when IIT & IIM grads start staying back in the country, the culture will seep down eventually...a sign of things to come.
you are assuming that all Indians in the US are from IIT. there are lesser mortals too you know ......... :-))
But the point being, when IIT & IIM grads start staying back in the country, the culture will seep down eventually...a sign of things to come.
you are assuming that all Indians in the US are from IIT. there are lesser mortals too you know ......... :-))
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alkg
09-12 08:30 PM
Yes guys we should come forward and and start a compaign like we did in July 2007.
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regacct
05-03 08:09 AM
Got to step it up with Sen Brown and Sen LeMieux, along with Sen Cornyn!
lacchij
08-10 12:26 PM
Got the receipts numbers for 485,765,131 from the checks...Applied to Nebraska ...Notice was sent on 08/07/07...
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